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In the absence of a paid account, this will have to be a pseudo-poll:

Do you pronounce the words "golem" and "Gollum"

1) exactly the same (with the first vowel as in "pot")?
2) exactly the same (with the first vowel as in "pole")?
3) differently ("golem" with the first vowel as in "pole" and "Gollum" with the first vowel as in "pot")?
4) some other way?

(I will explain why I'm asking if anyone's interested.)

Date: 2004-07-30 11:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] velvetfox.livejournal.com
go-lem and gol-lum

Date: 2004-07-30 11:44 am (UTC)
simont: A picture of me in 2016 (Default)
From: [personal profile] simont
3.

Date: 2004-07-30 11:51 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] aldabra
3.

Date: 2004-07-30 11:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] acronym.livejournal.com

Simon, Aldabra: <AOL>.

Date: 2004-07-30 01:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crazyscot.livejournal.com
I'm with them.

Date: 2004-07-30 11:57 am (UTC)

Date: 2004-07-30 11:58 am (UTC)

Date: 2004-07-30 12:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] karohemd.livejournal.com
3)
*remembers conversation at Andy's BBQ and thinks he's probably not quite right* ;o)

Date: 2004-07-30 12:01 pm (UTC)

Date: 2004-07-30 12:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fluffymormegil.livejournal.com
I use a longer 'o' in "golem" than in "pole", and a pot-style 'o' in "gollum".

Date: 2004-07-31 03:42 am (UTC)

Date: 2004-07-30 12:13 pm (UTC)
emperor: (Default)
From: [personal profile] emperor
3

Date: 2004-07-30 12:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ptc24.livejournal.com
'golem' has an 'o' as in 'go'. 'Gollum' is pot-style.

Date: 2004-07-30 01:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ceb.livejournal.com
ditto

Date: 2004-07-30 12:24 pm (UTC)
ext_8103: (Default)
From: [identity profile] ewx.livejournal.com
I'll have a 3, please, Bob.

Date: 2004-07-30 12:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mtbc100.livejournal.com
3, but with little confidence in my correctness.

BTW, Benjamin seems to be using "his" for both "his" and "her".

Date: 2004-07-31 11:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mtbc100.livejournal.com
I should add that I'm interested in why you're asking. (-:

Date: 2004-07-30 12:26 pm (UTC)

Date: 2004-07-30 12:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] senji.livejournal.com
Like 3. But I note that the second vowels are quite different too...

Date: 2004-07-30 01:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] teleute.livejournal.com
Well, I'm going to be different, and say 1. However, I am discovering more and more that I pronouce unusual words (I consider golum unusual) wrongly almost all the time, since I try to pronouce everything phonetically if its a word I've only read, never heard. For instnce I was pronouncing epitome as epy-tome for years. I also used the word e-pit-o-me when speaking, but hadn't twigged that they were the same word.

Date: 2004-07-30 01:14 pm (UTC)

Date: 2004-07-30 02:18 pm (UTC)
zotz: (Default)
From: [personal profile] zotz
3, although I've a vague idea that 1 is more accurate.

Date: 2004-07-30 02:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] angoel.livejournal.com
2 is the closest.

In reality, I use the first vowel as in 'golly' for both of them, and use erm and um for the rest.

Date: 2004-07-30 03:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kaet.livejournal.com
I pronounce golem like phone or home: g@Ul@m. Ang gollum I pronounce like pot or lot: gQl@m.

Date: 2004-07-30 05:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] robinbloke.livejournal.com
4. The 'gol' part remains the same, the last part changes.

Date: 2004-07-30 06:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] teleute.livejournal.com
So why do you want to know?

Date: 2004-07-30 08:02 pm (UTC)
cjwatson: (Default)
From: [personal profile] cjwatson
3, apparently like most other respondents. Curious why you're asking, though ...

Date: 2004-07-31 12:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aiwendel.livejournal.com
1./4.
both with a short hot pot O, but slightly different lem or lum at the end...

definately NOT with a long pole O in either!

you'll have to tell us why!!
:)
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Date: 2004-07-31 02:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beckyc.livejournal.com
3 for me.

Date: 2004-07-31 02:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valkyriekaren.livejournal.com
Gow-lem

Go-lum

Date: 2004-07-31 02:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vyvyan.livejournal.com
Which of my options does this correspond to? I gather you pronounce them differently, but does "gow-" rhyme with "cow" or "low"? And does "go-" rhyme with "go" or "got"?

Date: 2004-07-31 06:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] berglaug.livejournal.com
i think i pronounce them the same, but golem with a long o, gollum with a short o... and both the pot kind of o...

but i don't count because i'm not a native speaker

Date: 2004-07-31 06:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] berglaug.livejournal.com
though i do believe i should pronounce golem with a diphthong (as in pole), i don't , because i'm inclined to pronounce o as an open *tries to do IPA on lj and fails miserably*.. argh, as a 'pot' sort of o, since the 'pole' diphthong o is a different letter in icelandic, ó.

so, even if i use the right o's in common words, when i have to guess at pronounciations i quite often use the 'pot' o, in different lenghts depending on the lenght of the following consonants (in icelandic a vowel's lenghth is dependent on the consonants following it)

so

yeah

i don't count at all, i have a nasty foreign accent ;) :þ

Date: 2004-07-31 01:09 pm (UTC)
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